chris: will the tea party be the power center the republican party will use through 2012? >> no, i think they're going to self-destruct in 2011. chss: i that hopeful or what you believe? >> it's history. chris: do you get a sense this will last a couple more years? >> i wouldn't go that far. i think it will be more moderated and diluted. >> there is no other power center right now in the republican party so it's still a vacuum. >> that's what happens with these movements, the insurgencies eventually become the establishment. the question is how long. chris: before we break. east coast -- take christina o'donnell, there were big similarities between o'donnell and sarah palin. what is it? there's something evocative of bailin in o'donnell. same style of dress, perhaps, that thumb's up thing. both explain their reasons for colorful ways they explain their public service. >> the problem in our country today is apathy. it would be apathetic to go with the flow. we know that only dead fish go with the flow. >> here's o'donnell relating what she told a friend about what drives he